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		<title>By: bandick</title>
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		<dc:creator>bandick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little late to this party, but anyway...

Firstly, well written, Jack.  I can relate to much of what you have written.  For example, last June I went out with a man that I thought was just okay.  I would have been willing to go out with him a second time, but I wasn&#039;t overly excited.  So, we didn&#039;t have our second date until last Friday because (I&#039;m sure) he felt the &quot;not so interested&quot; vibe and didn&#039;t bother asking again.  But the second date was a complete 180.  I always knew he was cute but I had no idea how intelligent and funny he is.  We&#039;ll have a third date this weekend.

When I think about why I didn&#039;t understand how great he is on the first date, I have to blame myself.  I think that I was assuming he wouldn&#039;t be worth the time because I&#039;d recently (then) had a string of bad dates.  That, of course, makes me wonder how many of those bad dates were bad because I anticipated that they would be.

But to defend Krisser (not that she asked), I haven&#039;t really gotten the feeling that she doesn&#039;t think there are worthy men left.  After all, she is 35 (right?) and single and she knows that there is nothing wrong with her that would have resulted in that status.  

I think that she may just be frustrated, as many of us are, at thinking we might have found &quot;him&quot; and then having to try to find &quot;him&quot; again after the first (or second or third) &quot;him&quot; didn&#039;t work out, with the knowledge that we might get hurt...again.  

But she also knows that the romantic kind of pain isn&#039;t permanent and can be eased with a glass of wine and a trip to Target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little late to this party, but anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>Firstly, well written, Jack.  I can relate to much of what you have written.  For example, last June I went out with a man that I thought was just okay.  I would have been willing to go out with him a second time, but I wasn&#8217;t overly excited.  So, we didn&#8217;t have our second date until last Friday because (I&#8217;m sure) he felt the &#8220;not so interested&#8221; vibe and didn&#8217;t bother asking again.  But the second date was a complete 180.  I always knew he was cute but I had no idea how intelligent and funny he is.  We&#8217;ll have a third date this weekend.</p>
<p>When I think about why I didn&#8217;t understand how great he is on the first date, I have to blame myself.  I think that I was assuming he wouldn&#8217;t be worth the time because I&#8217;d recently (then) had a string of bad dates.  That, of course, makes me wonder how many of those bad dates were bad because I anticipated that they would be.</p>
<p>But to defend Krisser (not that she asked), I haven&#8217;t really gotten the feeling that she doesn&#8217;t think there are worthy men left.  After all, she is 35 (right?) and single and she knows that there is nothing wrong with her that would have resulted in that status.  </p>
<p>I think that she may just be frustrated, as many of us are, at thinking we might have found &#8220;him&#8221; and then having to try to find &#8220;him&#8221; again after the first (or second or third) &#8220;him&#8221; didn&#8217;t work out, with the knowledge that we might get hurt&#8230;again.  </p>
<p>But she also knows that the romantic kind of pain isn&#8217;t permanent and can be eased with a glass of wine and a trip to Target.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this! I needed that! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this! I needed that! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: suicide_blond</title>
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		<dc:creator>suicide_blond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks monkey king... i think we allll needed that...
xoxo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks monkey king&#8230; i think we allll needed that&#8230;<br />
xoxo</p>
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		<title>By: Musing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, where does one find all these beautiful, amazing men?</description>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is he single???</description>
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		<title>By: Liebchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liebchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm...I tried to post my comment before, but maybe it didn&#039;t go through?

In any case, I love this letter and need the daily reminder.

(Also, very nicely done with the stacks. My then-manfriend didn&#039;t have quite the same sense of adventure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;I tried to post my comment before, but maybe it didn&#8217;t go through?</p>
<p>In any case, I love this letter and need the daily reminder.</p>
<p>(Also, very nicely done with the stacks. My then-manfriend didn&#8217;t have quite the same sense of adventure.)</p>
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		<title>By: Zandria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zandria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard women say this, but not a man.  Love it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard women say this, but not a man.  Love it.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Cornelius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90% of the general populace is undateable.  It&#039;s been proven in a study from the Obvious Institute.

And I like that Monkey used a logically structured syllogism in an email to you.  Oh, my sides still ache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% of the general populace is undateable.  It&#8217;s been proven in a study from the Obvious Institute.</p>
<p>And I like that Monkey used a logically structured syllogism in an email to you.  Oh, my sides still ache.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty badass. Thanks, Jack London. Now, bring back the Wino!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty badass. Thanks, Jack London. Now, bring back the Wino!</p>
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		<title>By: NancyPants</title>
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		<dc:creator>NancyPants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cats, Mr. Monkey King London. I think I&#039;m in love. If you have your own blog, and I pray you do, please let that address be known to us lesser mortals.

And yeah, why aren&#039;t you two married? Did Atlas Shrug after The Fountainhead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cats, Mr. Monkey King London. I think I&#8217;m in love. If you have your own blog, and I pray you do, please let that address be known to us lesser mortals.</p>
<p>And yeah, why aren&#8217;t you two married? Did Atlas Shrug after The Fountainhead?</p>
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		<title>By: ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 00:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>add kids to the equation and it gets that much harder to find someone - but that doesn&#039;t mean we have to give up hope!

happy new year!!  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>add kids to the equation and it gets that much harder to find someone &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t mean we have to give up hope!</p>
<p>happy new year!!  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Pralle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Pralle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man definitely has a point -- being older+single does not necessarily mean that there are no interesting people left.

THAT BEING SAID, I do agree with the principle that the older you get, the more prevalent &quot;crazies&quot; are to the single pool -- singles of odd proportions and strange habits that make them unfit for consumption.    The problem is sorting these chaff from the wheat.

Unfortunately, single life is not geared to the 30+ crowd, even though it&#039;s probably just as applicable.    Hanging out at bars and nightclubs becomes purile at best (and the crazies are thick as flies) and there aren&#039;t any mass-single arenas such as college available to people of that age.   Work, even if it is populated with singles, either aren&#039;t the type you want or are off limits because banging a coworker one day and opposing them on the budget the next was never fashionable.

So...good points, Jack.   Amen to getting rid of the despair and darkness of the older single crowd.   But the task is definitely harder than it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man definitely has a point &#8212; being older+single does not necessarily mean that there are no interesting people left.</p>
<p>THAT BEING SAID, I do agree with the principle that the older you get, the more prevalent &#8220;crazies&#8221; are to the single pool &#8212; singles of odd proportions and strange habits that make them unfit for consumption.    The problem is sorting these chaff from the wheat.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, single life is not geared to the 30+ crowd, even though it&#8217;s probably just as applicable.    Hanging out at bars and nightclubs becomes purile at best (and the crazies are thick as flies) and there aren&#8217;t any mass-single arenas such as college available to people of that age.   Work, even if it is populated with singles, either aren&#8217;t the type you want or are off limits because banging a coworker one day and opposing them on the budget the next was never fashionable.</p>
<p>So&#8230;good points, Jack.   Amen to getting rid of the despair and darkness of the older single crowd.   But the task is definitely harder than it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is AWESOME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is AWESOME.</p>
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		<title>By: mysterygirl!</title>
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		<dc:creator>mysterygirl!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hooray!  I love the way that &quot;Jack&quot; dismantled that syllogism.  Maybe I should take this advice.  I mean, I probably won&#039;t, but I&#039;ll consider it... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray!  I love the way that &#8220;Jack&#8221; dismantled that syllogism.  Maybe I should take this advice.  I mean, I probably won&#8217;t, but I&#8217;ll consider it&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: ETK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look. Away.

Well said, well said. (I agree with John, why aren&#039;t you two already married?)</description>
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<p>Well said, well said. (I agree with John, why aren&#8217;t you two already married?)</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I might be in love. Don&#039;t tell my husband. :)</description>
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		<title>By: charlotteharris</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlotteharris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guest writer for the swift kick in the ass.  You&#039;re right, need to stop losing faith in dating and get a new attitude!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guest writer for the swift kick in the ass.  You&#8217;re right, need to stop losing faith in dating and get a new attitude!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t you two married?</description>
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